President Obama to Address School Children Sept 8th 2009
Parents across the country are rebelling against plans by President Barack Obama to speak directly to their children through the classrooms of the nation's public schools without their presence, participation and approval on Sept 8th. For many this is the first day of school.
Should there be an "opt out" option available to parents such as recess? Many school districts are adopting such a plan for next weeks address. How should our local districts handle?
Should there be an "opt out" option available to parents such as recess? Many school districts are adopting such a plan for next weeks address. How should our local districts handle?
Posted by Admin at Thursday, September 03, 2009 5:48 AM 
Categories: Locust Valley Central School District, Live from the West Wing
Categories: Locust Valley Central School District, Live from the West Wing
September 8th will be the first day of school for students in LVCSD. Thank God my kids are grown now, but the 1st day of school was always special, always exciting. So this year, instead of our youngest students who are naturally anxious about who will be in their class, will the teacher be nice, will the bus come on time, adjusting from having two months of vacation, etc.... will be forced to sit still and spend an hour being "addressed" by our Egomaniac in Chief.
This is an absolute disgrace. Do we remember what George Bush was doing when the first plane hit on 9/11? He was reading to children -- not lecturing them on how they can better "serve" their president and his radical agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1roYORUIrc
They will not be "brownshirts" this time. No, they will be "greenshirts". I know I posted the following video before the election. It makes me cry every time I watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSWt7hOYYLY
Every parent should be calling Central administration this week to find out if LVCSD plans on airing this unprecedented propaganda to our students. If the answer is yes, then I urge you to keep your kids home from school that day. Cost the district State Aid. Send a message - your taxdollars are going to this district to TEACH KIDS, not to INDOCTRINATE them!
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This is very scary to me...and should be taken very seriously..think about what might be next..say NO to the President's imposition on public education..
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Here is the Dept. of Ed's propaganda page with all the details EXCEPT and advance of BHO's speech:
http://www.ed.gov/admins/lead/academic/bts.html
Cash prizes kids! Good grief!
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To even attempt to go forth with this plan, shows the white house contempt for the people. This obvious propaganda ploy is an affront to our democratic system. As we are well aware, the attempt to brainwash children at this early age has been tried many times by other countries, who have all eventually failed, but not without great pain and hardships. We should all lift our voices and denounce this plan, for the white house hear.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlrdnR-boJE
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I WILL BE THERE ON 9/12! And for those who cannot make the march, so far I am representing the following good Americans who stand behind me:
Gastroenterologist - Winthrop Hospital
Radiologist - North Shore Hospital
Urologist - pvt. practice/pro-bono @ Winthrop
Radiation Oncologist -Allegheny General Hospital, PA
Board of Ed trustee
3 nurses
Retired Teacher - NH
my mailman
his wife - IRS agent
Retired teacher - NY
IT Programmer - NY
Lighting Designer- NY
Graphic artist - NY
2 college students
If you can't make the march and would like me to add your profession to my sign, just say the word!
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oh good grief, I forgot my husband --
Contractor/mason
and
Small business owner - skin care and health supplements - FL.
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here's the video your kids are going to see
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcPA1ysSbw&feature=email
see you in washington!!!!!
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Hey Pat,
What I want to know is, after I pledge to be a "servant to my President", am I allowed to flush the toilet after I vomit? Or do I have to vomit "deuce"?
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i think there is a special czar for vomiting!
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Do kids still have to stand and recite/listen to the Pledge of Allegiance every single day? If so I have no problem with them seeing the presidential address, might do them some good to see the actual address rather than the cut up edited versions faux news will show.
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Obama has done nothing but talked, talked some more and has even blown smoke. Time to shut up and lets see some results, or at least some clarification of all the talk. Talk to the kids later in the year and dont disrupt the first day of school for thousands of children.
BTW- what happened to clean coal technology?
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Bayville Beaches,
Assuming you are an American citizen, I don't see how pledging allegiance to our flag, of the United States of America, one nation, Under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all... and forcing children to Pledge to "BE A SERVANT FOR THE PRESIDENT" quite equates to "being good for them".
Oh wait. You must mean the Greater Good. Good as in:
““The ruling ideas of each age have ever been the ideas of its ruling class.” ~~Karl Marx
or
“From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.” ~~Karl Marx
anonymous -
You mean you didn't hear what Van Jones said? Clean Coal Technology is phantasmical, ludicrous, why, it's no more real than the tooth fairy or unicorns! What's that? BHO campaigned on Clean Coal Technology?
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oooooh watch out!! - from wikipedia . . the Pledge was written by a Socialist!
The Pledge of Allegiance was written in 1892 by Francis Bellamy (1855-1931), a Baptist minister, a Christian socialist, and the cousin of socialist utopian novelist Edward Bellamy (1850-1898).
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You guys have gone off the Deep End. You are acting like F'in lunatics. We have had Presidents speaking to school children as long as the technology has been available. But I guess you crazy loons don't remember that and Hannity and Beck and the rest of the wingnuts don't bother to remind you when giving you psychos your marching orders.
1988 and Dear leader spoke to the kiddies:
PRESIDENT REAGAN: Well, thank you very much. Please, be seated. You know, this is a real treat for me, having you here, and to have in a little while the chance to answer some of your questions. Let me also offer a special hello to those of you who are watching on C-Span, or the Instructional Television Network. Thank you for inviting us into your home or your school today ...
And that is a vision that goes beyond economics and politics, it's also a moral vision, grounded in the reverence and faith of those who believe that with God's help, they could create a free and democratic nation ...
Because you see, the taxes can be such a penalty on people that there's no incentive for them to prosper and to earn more and so forth because they have to give so much to the government ...
There was talk about having a gun ban in California. It didn't go through. But I got a letter from a man in San Quentin Prison. And from the prison he wrote me the letter to tell me he was in there for burglary, he was a burglar. And he said, "I just want you to know that if that law goes through, here in San Quentin there will be celebrating throughout the day and night by all the burglars who are in prison."
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I just e-mailed the LVCSD Superintendent to inquire about the 9/8 presentation. I mentioned that the White House will be releasing a "List" of schools that participate. Hunderfund's exact response was:
"We will not be on that list".
Bravo LVCSD!
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"BTW- what happened to clean coal technology?"
It will not be needed as the Administration's plan is to 'bankrupt the coal industry'. Not my words, but the President's. Video is posted on the net of him explaining this.
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Dear YOU are Nuts,
Let's get one thing straight. Reagan addressed JR. HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS in the month of NOVEMBER, 1988. Let's see, that would put Reagan at the END of his second term in office, now wouldn't it?
http://conflictingreports.wordpress.com/2009/09/02/reagan-gave-national-address-to-students-in-1988-broadcast-on-c-span/
He didn't send out this massive propaganda campaign complete with worksheets and a video asking Pre-K children to "pledge to be servants to the President". It's offensive, arrogant and invasive for this President to think he has the right to disrupt what will be the first day of school for many children.
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Lisa you have gone off the DEEP END. It must be a real scary world you live in where you see conspiracies around every corner.
Saw this on a sports forum about this topic from someone that is probably just as Conservative in his beliefs as you are without the WACKY.
"I got a bunch of emails from parents of kids who go to school with my kids asking if I was concerned about this.
I think they were disappointed to find that I think it's good. Perhaps it will create some interest/buzz in government among kids who are pretty clueless about civic matters. This doesn't seem like some indoctrination speech--they aren't going to come home socialists or junior brownshirts.
Besides, I told them, if he's able to undo in 20 minutes what they've been teaching at home for years--they aren't very good teachers."
But continue your paranoid BS Lisa you are so good at it.
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soooo happy about that..remember hitler's youth....
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PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT I WILL NOT SEND MY CHILDREN TO SCHOOL ON SEPTEMBER 8TH IF THE LVCSD IS GOING TO SHOW MY CHILDREN THIS BROADCAST.
HITLER WILL NOT BRAIN WASH MY CHILDREN.
MY KIDS ARE CELEBRATING AS THEY WILL HAVE AN EXTENDED VACATION.
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You people have to be the most, or at least close to the most ignorant bunch of people I have ever had the displeasure of hearing from.
This blog and this thread is an eye opener to the wingnuts in the midst.
Keep you kids home from school, you'd hate for them to actually look up at the Office of the President and respect what it stands for.
And God forbid he tell your kids to study hard and get good grades and it is up to them to be whatever they choose to be.
You know because then they may grow up to realize how F'in stupid their parents actually are.
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I have to agree with neighbor of dumbasses. Except, I don't think they are dumbasses. I think what we're dealing with here, are some baby boomers who are starting to realize their lives are over and nobody cares what their opinions are anymore. Their kids are grown and they realize that the only thing they have left is the Bayvilleblog. It sounds like desperate housewives to me. This is what happens when you live in a small town and never venture out into the real world. Small town blues maybe? End of the summer blues? I can't get rid of these wrinkles blues? I have cottage cheese on my ass. You get the picture......
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Anonymous is a unhinged. Hitler? come on. Can you or I disagree with this or any president, sure. But Hittler? This type of rhetoric detracts from the debate. Anonymous, send your kids to school. They need to learn how to think and reason, which they apparently won't learn it at home. You scare me
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For the poor blind sheeple who cannot see what this administration is foisting upon this country - WAKE UP! You can sling all of the insults you want at those of us who are able to see the writing on the wall. We can take it. And we are the ones whose children will be astute enough to understand the foundations of liberty this country was founded on and treasure that which is worth fighting for. While you submissively offer your children to sociali-t indoctrination by a President who is nothing more than a radical left-wing revolutionary seeking to "transform" America in order to provide "social justice" for minorities, we are taking the steps to protect our families. Your shallow interpretations of what is driving the anger and fear of millions of Americans across this great country is sad indeed, indicative of the LVCSD cheerleader mentality that has made its schools a bastion of mediocrity.
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The really sad thing is Bayville Liberals don't even have the intellectual acuity to challenge my opinions with Godwin's Law.
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Lisa. Nice how you swept up comparing the President with Hitler and the LVCSD all in one post. I raise my children, not the schools or the President. Do you fear we will be "European"?
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Another scared neighbor,
Heh! That was pretty good, huh?
I fear, that a large majority of today's Americans have been so brainwashed by liberal academia that they are unable to differentiate between a federal republic and a sociali-st republic.
I fear that many of today's Americans are so shallow and designer conscious that their desire to "impress" others with "elitist" labels outweighs their common sense and fundamental values.
I fear that too many Americans, whose good will and willingness to put race aside and give this President a chance, have been deceived by the rhetoric and cannot see the true agenda. This time it won't be just the Jews, and we won't be sent to ovens. It will be the middle class and affluent whites who will be targeted for reparations and to help the "oppressed minorities". It will be the Christians who are being told they are "intolerant" of Islamic Shariah law and madrassas, right here in the United States. It will be this gross mis-perception of what is politically correct and what is not, that will strip us of our freedoms and enslave us to an oligarchy hellbent on a New World Order, one with a global currency, subject to only international law and ruled by the UN, the IMF and the World Bank.
Btw, it is not only the Left that is leading us down this wayward international path undermining American sovereignty. Look to who Obama has kept in his cabinet held-over from the Bush years - Summer, Geithner, Gates, Bernanke - let me add a few more names on the sidelines - Kissinger, Gingrich Rockefeller -
It is all about the banks, power and money, my friend. Always was, always will be.
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Filed in U.S. District Court yesterday:
http://americangrandjury.org/
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BOYCOTT SENDING YOUR CHILDREN TO SCHOOL ON SEPTEMBER 8TH 2009.
SEND THE MESSAGE THAT OUR CHILDREN WILL NOT "PLEDGE TO BE A SERVANT" TO HIM.
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Anonymous,
The LVCSD Superintendent has said that our schools will not be participating. I urge LVCSD parents not to ruin their children's 1st day of school by keeping them home, but rather, let's make sure they report back whether or not Obama was given the floor in their classrooms.
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Parents
March with American Flags saying the Pledge of Allegiance in front of the LVHS to celebrate Democracy in America and not Communisism
We will pledge not to be servants to obama
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VAN JONES GONE!!!
One commie czar down, 30+ to go! And this (p)resident? who appointed this ludicrous lunatic should address the public school children on September 8th? Can you say STAY AWAY FROM OUR CHILDREN?
God bless Glenn Beck!
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Lisa, I agree with a lot of what you are saying but can you tone it down with the infatuation with Glenn Beck?
Here are some facts about Mr. Beck:
He is a divorced, recovering alcoholic drub abusing, college drop-out with ADHD. He's a Mormon who converted to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints AFTER he completed his A.A. meetings. And he defended bonuses given to the greedy execs at AIG. This guy is a religious freak of the worst kind. The kind that finds themselves after being a complete drunken, drug abusing fool. Not to mention he called the President a racist. A little out of line, don't you think? Hannity and O'Reilly I like, but I can see right through Glenn Beck. So please stop supporting this guy...it really makes you look bad.
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So it's ok to say the Pledge of Allegiance even though it was written by a Soc___ist? I'm disappointed that LV Schools will not allow the students to see the Presidents address. BTW no one is asking the kid to pledge to be a servant - that's a bit of a stretch.
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Just curious un-patriot since you did your best to trash Beck . Can you give us three examples of things that he's said that is factually wrong ? For a smart guy like yourself it should be easy.
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I don't think you have to be a smart guy to see right through this guy. He is as unstable as they come. Mark my words...Glenn Beck will fall off the wagon soon, and REAL hard. He will embarrass himself and he'll risk losing his gig at Fox news. He's an accident waiting to happen. Just look at him here:
What a disgrace!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Ebo4UhloU
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KM - Here looks for yourself.
http://www.factcheck.org/tag/glenn-beck/
Besides that - when Beck was asked by Walters if he checked his facts about some silly train business in which Beck lied, Beck did indeed say No. Why? Cause he is "an entertainer".
To me the word idiot comes to mind.
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Still waitng libs , don't give me any links , you accuse yet you can't answer the question, typical lib crap that people are tired of. un-patriot whats up with the alcohol obsession ?? a little thirsty are you ??
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lazy eh KM? you asked, I'm not accusing anyone of anything, just doing a little fact checking myself, something it seems you haven't taken even the briefest moment to do yourself/
There's more than 3 examples too. LOL.
http://www.factcheck.org/tag/glenn-beck/
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My daughter said to me today:
"I don't understand why some parents are worried about Mr. Obama talking to our schools. I think it's great. Whether they voted for him or not, he is our President, and we should respect that".
Funny how a nine year old can sum up in so few words what so many adults in this blog appear to find so hard to deal with. I'd be embarrassed to show her this thread. Adults behaving badly, and all that.
I find it disappointing that this blog has become such a sadly subversive, even scary, place. There can be little sensible debate around here when even Admin posts threads that are predicated on personal bias to start with. The whole place seems to have become one big moan.
Mark
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If we want our children to watch him we can on our time not school time.
My child also said, "isn't forcing us to watch him a little communistic?"
There is nothing wrong with him wanting to address the nation at night and let it be our choice.
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"Adults behaving badly"
Come on Beaumont...They are our opinions and although they differ from yours they are valid.
From the words of my child..."The guy cheated, he's lied to this country and has given us all a sense of false hope", "I really don't want him to talk to us", "telling us to stay in school and work hard, isn't that what our school and our parents do?"
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While Bayville Beaches is "technically" correct that sociali-t Francis Bellamy established the basis of what would become the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance, he/she is also technically incorrect about the evolution of the pledge to its current form:
http://oldtimeislands.org/pledge/pledge.htm
"In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his protest was ignored.
In 1954, Congress after a campaign by the Knights of Columbus, added the words, 'under God,' to the Pledge. The Pledge was now both a patriotic oath and a public prayer."
Today's Sociali-ts, like Howard Zinn (who wrote A People's History of the United States - a textbook LVCSD purchased with OUR taxdollars) advocate the following: http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0703-29.htm
Hence, the ultimate display of cognitive dissonance on the part of sociali-ts.
Patriot -
As someone who has declared in this blog that you are an anti-Semite, you denigrate yourself further by showing your total intolerance of people who have hit bottom, reformed their ways, and achieved great success as a result. Calling people of faith "religious freaks" reveals more of your shallow, intolerant, nature. Should people of faith call you an "atheist freak"? A godless pagan freak? This country was founded on freedom OF religion, not FROM religion. The resignation of Van Jones and his lame attempt to have his group Color of Change try to get advertisers to boycott Glenn Beck's show just shows who the REAL racists are. Glenn Beck should be given all the credit for exposing this freak show of Czars under this Obamination of a President and at least getting one of these traitors to America to resign.
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To add - in speaking to my octogenarian Jewish Mommy yesterday who now regrets voting for Obummer, she summarized his Tuesday indoctrination address to children as "This is so scary. This is exactly what Hitler did". She lived through those days, didn't read about them through Liberal history books. I assure you she doesn't read the blog, either.
Mark,
Well of COURSE your kid "thinks it's great". Congratulations on raising a good little comrade. Make sure she wears a green shirt.
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Liberal Bias test of the day -
1. Was this Superintendent correct in sending this student home?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,269778,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/education
2. Was this judge correct in his ruling?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,297514,00.html?sPage=fnc/us/education
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Get ready all you LIBS gov. Rudy and Pres. Sarah are on their way to save the day .Let the derangement syndrome begin !!!
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KM,
Can you imagine the hypocritical Bush derangement outrage by the Liber-loons if Bush had commandeered their kid's first day of school? They would have been screaming bloody murder!
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Yea and don't you love all the outrage over the big O's Afghanistan war.The moronic left is showing everyone what idiots they are more and more every day and they're to stupid to even realize it.
thank GOD for the 1st amendment
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This Blog has turned into a episode of the Glen Beck Show.
A Bunch of angry people shouting about their irrational fears.
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End the Blog -
Your choice of handle is very telling. What a good little fascist you are. Cowardly, but fascist.
Will the Bayville Blog be subject to the "new and improved" Fairness Doctrine by Obama's FCC Diversity Czar?
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unstable- adj 1. Psychologically maladjusted. 2. Not firmly placed; unsteady; not balanced. 3. Highly or violently reactive
I don't need to provide any examples of a lunatic who "doesn't lie". So again, I leave you with the one and only example needed to prove why I think Glenn Beck needs a doctor...fast!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Ebo4UhloU
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Patriot -
That's called "passion", something you are apparently lacking. Personally, I think he needs bodyguards more than a shrink, to protect himself and his family from the deranged "Liberals" who think he needs to be silenced.
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OMG! Did any of you watch Obama at the AFL-CIO picnic? This is our Commander in Chief??? The one with zero "service" in our U.S. military?
This guy is the biggest embarrassment on the planet! Who does he think he is now? An inner city minister... "y'all"? Who declared him "cool"? "Firing up" the union workers - "let's hear the chant".
"Are you fired up?" Hell yeah, I'm fired up Mr. President. I'll see you on 9/12 in your front yard.
"When we stand up, we rise up!" ~BHO
"I luv ya! Bye Bye!" ~BHO
See? I'm doing my homework compiling "notable" BHO quotes to be preserved for all posterity.
No God bless America today, eh Barack?
Anybody get a count of how many times BHO pinched the bottom of his nose during his sermon? I stopped counting after about 12.
http://searchworks.stanford.edu/view/7839539
>>>>>>>>The raising of the hand to the nose has been reported in many cultures as a movement associated with lying. This may be related to the fact that the nose contains erectile tissues that engorge when a person is lying. For this reason Dr. Hirsch calls the physical changes associated with mendacity the "Pinnochio Effect".>>>>>>>
You be the judge.
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Just previewed BOH's address to school kids scheduled for 9/8. Very benign, and innocent. All he is asking for is for scholl age students to be good little democrats. Does anyone realize that Ron Bloom (Car Czar) has ties with a socilalized "Marx" summer camp here in the USA.
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ROFLMAO!! The Liberals are coming, the Liberals are coming....Oh my God the Liberals are coming!!!!!
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OK un-patriot so you can't give me the examples like I asked . Thats over, you lost. Next, everyday I here Beck say he prays that he is wrong and he wishes people would call in and prove him wrong. So why don't you ? Not man enough ?? Or you could always move to San Francisco just don't forget to put some flowers in your hair.
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Same here, just read the speech - its only crime against the students (as far as I can tell) is its length - other than that I think its swell.
Lisa - you said "While Bayville Beaches is "technically" correct that sociali-t Francis Bellamy established the basis of what would become the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance, he/she is also technically incorrect about the evolution of the pledge to its current form:"
Lisa, you are wrong. What a hoot the way you twisted words. I did not say that Bellamy established the basis of what was to become the US Pledge of Allegiance. I said that HE WROTE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. Two I never mentioned anything about the evolution so put your "technically incorrect" brakes on. In fact, Bellamys version was adopted as written in 1892 by the REPUBLICAN President George Harrison. It was changed some 31 years LATER and continued its evolution until 1954. So it was indeed written by a soc___ist and adopted by a republican and our kids are still "forced" to say it. (including the "under god" section.
And unfortunately many children will miss out on the Presidents address partly because of their stubborn parents and those who don't even have kids in the schools an still complain.
I hope you are wrong about LV Schools not allowing the kids this opportunity to hear their President speak. My niece and nephew go elsewhere and though her parents supported McCain (without question mind you), she's excited to hear him and they are encouraging her to pay attention.
Bravo to the schools that have chosen to involve the children in the real world. Shame on the schools whose older students most certainly will have heard about this publicity and will only learn from this episode that the powers that be at their schools felt that they shouldn't see our President speak, what a lesson to teach students. I would feel this way had schools "boycotted" a message from any candidate who was elected by the people to the Presidency.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/
Bayville Beaches,
*sigh* Thank you for screaming your ignorance across the Bayville Blog. I see I gave you far too much credit by assuming you could READ and be able to understand that the Pledge of Allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America was NOT the original language framed by Bellamy and that the Pledge itself had indeed EVOLVED since the 1800's.
>>>>>>>>>"In 1923 and 1924 the National Flag Conference, under the 'leadership of the American Legion and the Daughters of the American Revolution, changed the Pledge's words, 'my Flag,' to 'the Flag of the United States of America.' Bellamy disliked this change, but his PROTEST WAS IGNORED.>>>>>>>>>>
Wah wah wah. The whiney Socialist, the one who YOU tossed out to counter the Right's Socialist argument against Odoctrination Day WAS IGNORED so the Pledge could be REFORMED. By the DAR. Real Americans.
Kind of like the 19th Amendment to the Constitution which in your case, if you are a female, I seriously think should be repealed.
To further prove your complete and total ignorance, children are not FORCED to recite any PORTION of the Pledge, merely to stand in respect.
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/faclibrary/case.aspx?case=WV_Education_v_Barnette
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/
Bayville Beaches,
I had written a lengthy post but I must have inadvertently entered the word sociali-t which is censored by the Bayville Blog, so let me just repeat the most pertinent parts.
1. You are incorrect about children being FORCED to say the Pledge of Allegiance. As per the following decison, they are only required to stand out of respect:
http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/faclibrary/case.aspx?case=WV_Education_v_Barnette
2. I see I gave you too much credit for thinking you had the intellectual scope of being able to deduce that what Bellamy wrote in the 1800's is NOT the current version of the Pledge our children recite.
If you refer back to the previous link I supplied you, you will see that Bellamy OBJECTED to the changes made by the DAR (real Americans). And was ignored. LOL! Awww, wah, wah, wah. YOU were the one to toss out the "writer of the Pledge is a Sociali-t" line in response to opponents of Obama's administration promoting sociali-m.
The DAR's amendment to the Pledge is kinda like the 19th Amendment to our Constitution. And if you are a woman, I'd give up my own right to vote just to see ignorant women like you lose yours if we could get it repealed.
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"I know that feeling. When I was young, my family lived in Indonesia for a few years, and my mother didn’t have the money to send me where all the American kids went to school. So she decided to teach me extra lessons herself, Monday through Friday – at 4:30 in the morning." ~~ from Uncle Barry's "Why to this day I still hate rich white Americans" speech to American public school students.
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Lisa,
Thanks for clarifying that students are only required to stand. (I wonder if they are even aware of the option to remain silent? I wasn't) So back to the drawing board - schools may "require" a child to stand out of respect for a patriotic phrase with religious references for every school day of the year but schools may not "require" a child to sit for an 18 minute address by the Commander in Chief of this fine country
Could you explain how these Presidential address is,as you posted, "forcing children to Pledge to "BE A SERVANT FOR THE PRESIDENT"
BTW: You conveniently skipped the fact that I recognized in my post that "In fact, Bellamys version was adopted as written in 1892 by the REPUBLICAN President George Harrison. It was changed some 31 years LATER and continued its evolution until 1954."
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Bayville Beaches,
What was that? Lisa was RIGHT about the Pledge? Very good. I suggest you drop your fallacious argument now.
On to your continuing confusion: Pat conveniently linked the video that will be shown either before or after the speech:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcPA1ysSbw&feature=email
Watch it to the end. The children would be required to, you should too.
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The holy one, aka Hitler, isn't going to run his indoctrination after all...hmmm
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Perhaps the students would be better suited with a nice motherly speech on abstinence from former Gov. of Alaska Sarah Palin? Or perhaps a lecture on gun safety from former VP Dick Cheney?
It's clear to see where the problem with our youth today lies by Anon.'s post which compares the President of the USA to Hitler. I bet that person is well-respected in the district and I'm sure no teachers cringe when they read their class lists and find that person's children on the list.
I feel that LM posts some valid points and truly researches her stuff. It's nice to see intellectual debate rather than hate-filled name calling by Anon. However, I'd be curious to know how LM would feel if the Mayor of our wonderful town was going to speak to the students in the schools on the first day and those who do not like her were screaming on the blog BOYCOTT SCHOOL!!! I'm sure you would not feel entirely the same way.
In my opinion, it boils down to respect. He is the President of our WONDERFUL country whether you like it or not. It's call democracy and for better or worse that's what our country was founded on. Same goes to those who bad-mouth the mayor. The majority has spoken. Show some respect people and set an example for those young minds you have at home. Let's not raise disrespectful hate mongers who fail to recognize those who have been duly elected to their positions.
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Dear Enough,
"Duly Elected!!!"
If you consider cheating AND lying duly elected...shame on you.
BOYCOTT SCHOOL SEPT 8TH
Not sure who the other Anon's are but I have no children in this district because I choose to send my children to private school because of things like this.
VOTE NO MAY 2010
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WHY IS IT OK TO CALL PRESIDENT BUSH HITLER BUT WE CAN'T CALL OBAMO HITLER
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KM, Why is it so hard for you to understand that I don't care if the guy lies or tells the truth? Do I have to spell it out for you? I can't even listen to what the guy has to say because I REFUSE TO LISTEN TO LITTLE BOYS WHO CRY AT THE DROP OF A DIME!!!
The guy is unstable. And for you to defend him makes you look like a unstable, crybaby too.
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http://www.whitehouse.gov/MediaResources/PreparedSchoolRemarks/?source=email
Just in case you don't know where to find it.
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Daddy...Obama bailed out big businesses and is increasing our taxes to give to those that don't work...now he is going to talk to us and ask us to work harder???
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"Work harder, millions on welfare on depending on you" BHO
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Thank you LVCSD for making this presentation from Obama our choice
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This blog has become quite mean spirited. Hitler comments, shamefull. Boycott school comments, idiotic. I fear this is the evolution of American exceptionalism into the ugly American. We shold be debating American exceptionalism rather than turning into the ugly American
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THANK YOU LVCSD FOR NOT SHOWING THE ADRESS
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I called my daughter at home after she returned from her first day of school, I had ask her if she watch the presidents speech, she told that that she did not, did LVCSD air BHO speech today at BI or BP. At first I was against the president speaking to my children, it is my belief that it is my mother and I who should instill values and morals into our children. After reading the speech it appeared innocent, it had undertone, but innocent, The part that I'm against is that schools teachers are being ask to present the students with work (how can you be a good citizen) the teachers have more to worry about then following up on the president speech. leave well enough alone, you did the speech how walk away.
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The people wanted a change in health care. The president went for change. It sounds like the people don't want the extreme change in health care that would put government in charge. It seems even with a house ruled by dems, the people are being heard. There will be eventual changes in health care. Hopefully the gov won't be running the show and these changes will improve the system with little or no additional cost.
The people wanted transparency. They got a president that speaks well (welcome change) and attempts to give as much information in terms understood by the people. IMO, that is why the people are being heard. They are not standing around saying What did he say? What does that mean?
Most people are afraid of change. Any change. I am especially when government is making these changes. Hopefully our government will continue to listen to the people and make changes that the people really want and NEED.
Scary part is some people actually want our gov to run our health system into the ground.
Why would someone care whether the president addressed the students of America? Kid's learn politics from mom and dad and even Uncle George at the Holiday Dinner Table.
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is lisa mcloughlin being censored? can't believe she has stopped posting?
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ANON...WHAT???
ANYWAY...IT IS DONE AND OVER AND WE WON
THANK YOU LVCSD FOR LISTENING TO US AND RESPECTING OUR OPINIONS
YES, HIS SPEECH WAS CHANGED, A LOT, AFTER ALL OF THE CONTROVERSY...THREATS OF BOYCOTTS ETC.
NOW WE WILL MOVE
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Hi,
My name is Sean, (I use my real name lol) Lisa McLoughlin's son. I have never been to this blog before. I have only read just this last page or so.
Yes people feel differently......right wing vs. left wing.
Yes some might think it is good for "The President" in general whoever it is to speak to their children. I get that point of view.......I just dont get spending all of your time going out of your way to make these posts to say that all of these people are right wing nuts.....
Seriously, for 8 years all that I heard people complain about was Bush Bush Bush....how many Cindy Sheehans were there then? (PS Now she is protesting Obama lol)
Anyways.....how can I wrap this up.....
It all comes down to business. Our country (govt) spends more than it takes in. The only sector to experience growth the past year was the (public aka Govt. funded sector)
My evidence is that these are REAL facts, that are a PROBLEM. My letter in the mail telling me I wont receive all of my Social Security money is a PROBLEM. (That is real btw)
Anyways look over the last 4 years I have been in and out of major news companies that broadcast about finance, news, (fail to report the REAL news) everything. Me I am a lighting designer, not a producer, but I still have ears and eyes.......these people want you to get pulled into your TV, they want you to spew THEIR rhetoric....that is their Job. That is Glen Beck's job, that is Matt Lauer's job, that is why every TV Channel exists!
No matter who is in charge of the govt. (democrat dipwads or republican rhetorical re tard) they feel they have more power than YOU the average citizen. It will always be corrupt.......the question is how corrupt.....how much money are you going to let them take out of your paycheck to put into theirs? how many more rights are YOU going to let them take away from YOU?
Spend your time doing the RIGHT thing for YOU. WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF. We all want the same thing, and when you want the same thing as someone else and you get it and they don't well guess what? There aint gonna be no peace in the Middle East Folks........That is business.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survival_of_the_fittest
Yes my Mom was censored. (TOTAL BS)
Yes she is an opinionated person.
Yes she raised me "right" so that I will always love her, protect her and care for her now that I am a grown man. If everyone in this country could be close to as decent a human being as she is we would have a lot less of the problems we have today. It's when family walks away from one another, it is when you turn your back on your neighbor in need that things start to fall apart. If you lived your life as such a mean spirited person who is so unloved by everyone that there is nobody to help you or take care of you, or lend a helping hand, well maybe you deserve what you had coming. I pity you for your loveless life.
Now back off to real life, smiling and working hard.
SPM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqcPA1ysSbw&feature=email
I guess it would have been more appropriate to package it with Give Uncle Sam a Hand? Be a Servant for the President was . . . . i don't know tacky?
I don't agree with everything Lisa had to say. I didn't always agree with how she said it. She was straight up. Not much political correctness. Not enough time for it I guess.
Kind of ironic. It looks like LVCSD censored our President something Lisa was for. And she got censored in doing so.
CENSORSHIP bites. It is wrong. UNAMERICAN. Against policy. What is wrong with our thinking here people?
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Freedom of expression is not absolute. I'm not sure what Lisa may have said to finally cause her to be "censored" but, c'est la vie. Censorship has a long history in the good old USA.
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Lisa has not been censored! I may have inadvertantly marked one of her comments as spam. This will be resolved shortly.
Jeff
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Good! Glad to hear that! Because regardless of whether or not everyone agrees with all of Lisa's comments, she is knowledgable and a frequent contributor! I do think her comments encourage a lot of response, which isn't that the whole purpose of a blog?!
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To Lisa McLoughlin, Y'all Cuckoo for Coco Puffs, Bayville Beaches, et al.-
Please acceept my apologies. As suspected all three commenters above were accidentaly tagged while I was cleaning up some spam on the blog. The process can be tedeous and is a manual process that is usually done very late or very early in the day. All users have been restored and the authors are free to post again if they wish.
I too am strongly against censorship; one of the reasons I host many blogs. Once again my apologies.
Jeff
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Dear Jeff,
Apology accepted, we all make mistakes! (well, not me of course but..... KIDDING!)
Dear Distressed in Bayville,
>>>>>>"Freedom of expression is not absolute.">>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Well, uh, actually uh, according to our U.S. Constitution which you can visit in The National Archives -
[Amendment I]
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
And thank you to my wonderful son and those who spoke up in defense of freedom of speech.
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LM - "And thank you to my wonderful son and those who spoke up in defense of freedom of speech"
Agreed!
Jeff
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I search of:
I'm looking to buy a house to sell drugs, illegal sex videos and handguns, does anyone know where I could get a mortgage for a house to sell the item out of and maybe a small business loan. It cost money to stock the shelves. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Go ACORN,
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Bayville Beaches 9/7/09-
I think you mean Prez Ben Harrison, not George Harrison....Hare Krisnha, Hare Krishna, Halleluja!
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Yeah, study hard, stay in school, blah, blah, blah. My God, Marx and Engels must be so proud of their student. Are you people insane? A President addressing school kids is hardly a "socialist plot". Take a deep breath and get therapy.
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Lisa: Freedom of expression was actually an amendment to the Constitution, i.e. the Bill of Rights. Nevertheless, you are dead wrong about freedom of expression being absolute. Libel, slander are just a few common examples.
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What? I was censored? cool. Thanks anony! You are correct and I wrote that twice! LOL.
Lisa - The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,The answer is blowin' in the wind.
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"The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind,The answer is blowin' in the wind"
Hey, wasn't that written by the weird white guy who was picked up by New Jersey police for looking "suspicious" in a minority neighborhood? LOLOLOL!
http://www.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/08/14/bob.dylan/
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How about showing this video to schoolchildren?
Red Skelton's Pledge of Allegiance
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KgJQUXr2Ws&NR=1
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Dammit - I linked the WRONG video, my apologies......
THIS ONE -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPbIls0iOnI
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he's back! check out the suggested reading list!
http://www.hyscience.com/archives/2010/01/alert_obamas_or.php
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Indoctrinator in Chief - is there any doubt?
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2010/01/atlas-exclusive-obama-organizing-for-communism-and-youth-corps-in-the-public-school-1.html
http://truthaboutib.com/obamaduncanib.html
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For heaven's sake, he is the PRESIDENT of our children's country! Please remember he was elected by a LANDSLIDE, unlike Bush who *stole* the second election from Gore (Hail to the Thief!)There is nothing inappropriate about school kids watching their president speak. I rmember fieldtrips to Sagamore Hill in elementary school. I remember when I attended LVHS ('78) we had a homework assignment to watch President Carter's State of the Union adress or other special address about the energy crisis.. which we were seeing in real life with cars lined up at the gas pump to beat price hikes, dads demanding we turn down the heat in the house etc.
No protests then despite the fact he was a flaming "Liberal".
Protesters- you're all a bunch of sore losers.. or closet racists, perhaps?
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Laying out grounds may be considered a liberal art, in some sort like poetry and painting.
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